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the committee, announcing that he will be in Venice on April 23 for the inauguration of the biennial International Art Exhibition, April 25, and dedicate the new Campanile of St. The marble filmed on the wreck exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. This is one of several undocumented, unreferenced claims. (Click to enlarge). According to the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground", James Cameron sends a robot submarine into the sitting room of the promenade suite on B deck and films J.P. Morgan and 50 others cancel passage, 25. Although Fenton is absent from all the available crew lists, it doesn't immediately negate his story - the lists are not infallible, and we all saw how Leonardo Di- er, Jack Dawson blagged his . For those who have read this website, they will realise that there is certainly no evidence of a 'switch', all the claims have been exposed to reveal nothing but misinformation or fiction and most importantly that there is conclusive evidence to prove that it is Titanic that sank. If they were interchangeable why would there be a number on it? 'The Olympic Room' Actually it is quite simply medium grey primer that was used on all three Olympic class ships, including Titanic, Olympic was the first to be launched, pronounced the largest and most luxuriest ship in the world. 22. There is no reason to doubt that passengers cancelled their voyage aboard Titanic. You do not need to be an expert to see that it certainly does not. B-deck window spacing on the wreck This was the result of a difference in the coal consumption and the emptied coal bunker aft of BR 6 and forward of BR 5The coal bunker was on the starboard side which was emptied. 2nd-class: 200 The Olympic and the Britannic were also consistent on the starboard side, with 15 portholes. 21. Claim: Titanic's lifeboats had small brass I.D plaques screwed on them and they all said "RMS Olympic". However, in December 1911, during Titanic's fit out, she had 2 added to light the crews galley and wash room which resulted in a total of 16 as seen in the maiden voyage photographs. Dr Robert Ballard admitted it was the Olympic Going aft he passes boat No. A few passengers, 2nd Class passenger Lillian Bentham and Emily Rugg reported that someone jumped it from an upper deck which might have been A Deck. It is a measurement of volume or the enclosed internal space of a ship. The reality is that Olympic's yard number 400 is all over the scrapped items - and this is documented: (see more information on this here). the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. 3. Paddy said that the guilt of "Olympic Class" referred to a set of three ships: Olympic, Titanic and Britannic. And all of this without even mentioning that the Carpathia was owned by Cunard, the White Star Line's key rival on the transatlantic service. Frankfurt (140 miles) Norddeutscher Lloyd Line Eastbound, Galveston to Bremerhaven. This particular claim began when Robin Gardiner stated in his book that when the name on the bow of the Titanic wreck was cleared of rust (allegedly filmed by Dr. Ballard during his 1986 dive to the wreck), the raised letters 'M, P & Y' were visible. The This claim shows a total ignorance, not only of Olympic and Titanic but of ships and shipbuilding in general. to Gallatin TN (Pop. It seems those intent on proving a 'switch' have mistaken the missing bridge enclosure, the rectangular gap in the forward bulwark (painted white) for the wheelhouse. It must also be noted that many of Olympic's westbound crossings had an average speed of 21 and a half. Difference in Titanic's name plate This claim is of course connected to the previous claim that the ship hit, instead of an iceberg, an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. Titanic when launched was a work in progress, designed to be a better, improved version of her older sister Olympic. Of course there is none. saw a lot of iceon the deck her full speed if the weather cooperated. Quite simply, Titanic had 14 portholes on the port side C deck (bow) when launched, but in the following months she received 2 extra for better light and air. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch single-ended boilers in Boiler Room No. While the Sea Scouts were restoring the old life boat they discovered the name Olympic cut into the gunwhale. However both RMS Olympic and RMS Titanic had their names riveted oncovering something up perhaps? He always maintained that the iceberg alone did not sink Titanic, that it had a fire burning in the coal bunkers for a week and that the Captain and the company knew about it. Even more conclusively, a New York Times newspaper article of Thursday 28th March 1912 reveals that in March "J. Pierpont Morgan has written a cordial letter to Some go as far as to state that 'Lloyd's paid out $12,500,000'. However, as discussed in point 36 (below), almost certainly James Fenton was not aboard Titanic as he claimed. The origin of this seems to have come from Paddy the pig, also known as James Fenton, who later in life related the following: When the form near me in the afternoon and had questioned the library steward how he should declare his patent) said, "Well, I am accustomed to estimating distances and I put it at sailed in a great hurry from Belfast and said that when they hit the iceberg it showing through, but which under the harsh lighting conditions looks more white than grey. And how much ice would be on rigging anyway? Damage to the Olympic due to its collision with HMS Hawke. This is not heard in the documentary and so Steve Hall is mis-quoted as if he is summarising the entire 'switch' situation, when his comment was actually directly in relation to the wreck - not the theory in its entirety. shelved 11,906 times Showing 30 distinct works. 38. Olympic officers on the bridge Fenton was born to an Anglican priest and his wife, who died when Fenton was 10. Against the forward steel wall, the faux marble fireplace with its bronze details seems in perfect condition." 1 2. the Olympic. 33. Certainly not enough to justify eyewitness reports of the quantity of ice on the deck. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. were being made to further increase the ships speed. However it seems that conspiracy theorists make a deliberate mathematical error, and then label it 'conclusive evidence'. and to be able to compare our video with a period photograph of the time and look at the veining in the marble and realise it is the same thing, it was like a fingerprint. Also as above, if there were such large structural differences between the ships, how is it they are not noticeable in photographs and also spotted by passengers and crew familiar with the Olympic? 19. The stern wreck image is in fact compiled from thousands of high-resolution images shot during a multi-million dollar, two-month expedition that took place in August and September 2010. 7:15 PM. 23. Either way, the wheelhouse was not yet built at this stage, so no proof can be offered from this photograph. The Olympic didn't even have a carpet, but the Titanic -- ah, you sank in it up to your knees. But to claim this was "done deliberately to help with a switch" is misleading to say the least - and such a ploy would be mostly ineffective on people in 1912 who were largely unconcerned with such technical inaccuracy in promotional material. There is nothing here that reveals a 'switch'. Not content with an insurance scam 'switch' he also proposes that Titanic (really Olympic) hit, not an iceberg, but an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. They But this is not due to it being the Olympic. 12 said that the Frenchman jumped in before the boat was lowered, indicating that he did jump from the boat deck into the boat. and loss account for the year to December 31 st 1911 was in surplus by 1,102,756 Thirdly, in a picture of Olympic, taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, this allegedly shows this vessel not to have the 'tell-tale plating' joint, which to 'switch' proponents proves 'conclusively' that the hull pictured is that of Titanic although the name Olympic is clearly visible on both sides of the bow. The fact is that there were many physical differences between the two ships that would involve substantial work to change. Refer to the images below. Importantly it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. Captain Smith was also, like the Captain on the Californian, they claim, also sleeping fully clothed in the chart room. Specifically, her passenger (excluding crew) capacity was listed as 2,550: 1st-class: 100 And that was a very surreal kind of image for me too to see these little white crabs crawling around in the fireplace of the room that was commissioned for J.P.Morgan. 40. Some also claim that the reason some crew did not sign up was specifically because 'the only thing that could not be made to look new were the ship's boilers, having already been used for 12 months on Olympic before the switch' and noticing this on the Belfast to Southampton crossing they decided to 'get off' at Southampton. Did they think they would just stand there and watch? the shadows of the butt lap is still discernable." This New York Times newspaper article, printed prior to Titanic's departure, shows conclusively that Morgan would be in Venice on April 23 so he would be in no position to take the Titanic back to the United States and return in time. Claim: Dr Robert Ballard has admitted that when he discovered the wreck of the Titanic he found evidence it was actually the Olympic. but would have perhaps slowed the rate of sinking. Alleged footage of Olympic's name on the wreck - it is obviously fake. previously published on the 'switch' theory -no doubt due to the release of the book "The Riddle of the Titanic" in 1996. (British Enquiry (Day 3) There was nothing particulary newsworthy about her. The "Olympic" is the Titanic's sister ship ("RMS Olympic"), and part of the conspiracy . Displacement tonnage is the actual weight of a ship (about 52,000 tons for Titanic). However his comments that the 45,324. Names riveted on, not welded Indeed - much of the advertising and for that matter news coverage of the disaster, used artwork, photographs and newsreel footage of the Olympic. About 29 results for James Fenton's poetry masterclass. performance, only two miles shy of Olympics best ever maiden voyage daily run, and she did that with only 21 Mark's." drive the ship at full speed.. So by April 1912 both ships had 16 portholes. Dr. Fenton is in the Division of Pulmonary, Critical Care and Sleep Medicine. Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! This is where Gardiner's theory starts to get even more bizarre. So if indeed it was part of some pre-arranged 'rescue' it completely failed in its purpose. (Click image to enlarge). It must be added that in 1912 it was not usual to have inaccurate artist's impressions and wrongly captioned photographs. Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. Titanic was carrying over 2200, and could have potentially been carrying more than 3000 if fully occupied. The claim does not align with Ballard's writing on the matter. 20. Though his verse often treated serious subjects such as political repression and violence, he deployed humour and whimsy with a liberal hand. Californian was carrying woolly jumpers and blankets In fact, the area of the wreck highlighted in this so-called 'evidence' has peeled away from the side of the stern so was most likely further forward on the hull than presently seen. There is photographic evidence of this being applied to Titanic, in the first week of March 1912 and which shows the stark contrast between the light grey primer and the fresh black top coat being applied, as seen below. This is completely false. Take the dining saloon. In fact footage of this is used in his 1997 blockbuster film "Titanic" and with some creative license he actually places the fictional character of Caledon Hockley in this suite. (Click to enlarge), Titanic author Steve Hall summarises the porthole history: "At the time of the Titanic's launch there were 14 portholes in the port side plating between the focsle deck and the sheer line of the hull, but by December the same year, the ship was fitted with an additional 2 portholes, giving her a total of 16. Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains this particular claim: According to the book "The Ship That Never Sank" (pages 134-135) B Deck had no cabins extending to the hull as boats were visible. James is a public writer - engag, as he probably doesn't like to say - and it is his poems about war, dictatorship and exile that have won him the PEN/Pinter award. Once it was launched then it was 'fitted out' i.e. They were mostly Belfast men - i.e. Claim: Titanic split at the same point where the Hawke hit, revealing that it was in fact the Olympic. their attention to it, and they all watched it disappear, but had then at once resumed Firstly it must be pointed out that Titanic was technically not going "full steam" at the time of the collision. Those travelling east bound logically did not depart from England, and so were relatively unaffected by the coal strike. Titanic's sea trials were shorter than Olympic's Titanic, although only just superceding her sister in size, was no longer big news and so the public and media were not as interested in her maiden voyage as that of her sister. Accomplished through strategic, long term planning . There is nothing here on which to base a 'switch' theory. The reality is that Olympic and Titanic had differently pitched propeller blades so they would not have worked to their full potential had the blades been swapped from one ship to the other. They were also not on the gunwhales but on the sides of the lifeboat. - Coming from Belfast to Southampton. It was our intention if we had fine weather on Monday afternoon or Tuesday to Even if that simple fact is not enough, the other alleged details regarding the Californian are being misrepresented. Secondly, there was a rush to get the ship to Southampton to begin provisioning for the maiden voyage. The fact that the Olympic went on to serve 24 years is simply because the damage was repaired. (Click image to enlarge). According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "no such statement from any passenger is known." would have remained in surplus. Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic 5. CLAIM: Titanic's insurance was increased 5 days before the maiden voyage which resulted in J. P. Morgan receiving $12 million in insurance payouts from Lloyds Maritime Insurance. Titanic prior to her departure on her maiden voyage. Discoloured plating on Titanic And that paneling" This has led some to believe that Titanic's first class dining room, unlike the Olympic, was in fact carpeted over, as later portrayed in James Cameron's film "Titanic". 34. Firstly, the coal strike actually finished 9 days earlier on April 6, so normal traffic would have soon resumed. Not to mention the difficulty in changing the shell-plating at the bow and stern which bore the ships names - the names were not just painted on the plates, they were cut into the plates in letters four feet high and one-half inch deep that were then filled in with paint. This is one of the most popular pieces of 'evidence' of a switch but also the easiest to disprove. It was written in response to an article And the Olympic is actually the Titanic. rumours of an insurance scam, they would serve a minimum of 20 years in jail Lack of publicity for Titanic The Britannic, when launched, had 16 portholes, consistent with the later port side configuration of the Titanic and the Olympic. answer was to grind the names off the bells. Subtracting the total certified capacity of 2864 by 1047 leaves the Carpathia with "space" for 1817 - certainly not an extra 2200 from Titanic as the claim purports. Clutch my hand. Titanic was in fact what the White Star Line called "Olympic Class" - so in effect had the name "Olympic" on her already. Claim: All that needs to be done to switch the ships is exchange those parts of the ships which bore the vessels names such as name plates, the ships bell, menus and note paper letterheads, the names on the life belts and life boats, also any plaques and brass fittings with the liners name on and any interior signing bearing the name Olympic or Titanic. Suspicion first arose when the Titanic disaster was claimed to be a conspiracy by James A. Fenton, otherwise known as "Paddy the Pig." A believed worker on the Titanic, Paddy the Pig theorized that the RMS Olympic was switched with the RMS Titanic in one of the biggest insurance scams in history. Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. Claim: The ship was going full steam, but was achieving only 21 knots, rather than its theoretical maximum of 23, despite the Atlantic being exceptionally calm on the night of the sinking. 7. Even sailing at top speed through dangerous waters it arrived several hours after the sinking. the game. - Yes. When the Titanic sailed on her maiden voyage in April 1912, the number of passengers that she was carrying was very similar to the number that was booked onto Olympic for her maiden voyage the year before. anything like this. Claim: As welding had not yet been invented, it was customary for White Star Line to etch or cut the names of their liners into the steel and not rivet them to the outside. Though most of his work was ultimately discarded, Fenton was nonetheless contracted to receive somewhat less than 1 percent of royalties, which, because of the overwhelming international success of the musical, amounted to a substantial sum that made him independently wealthy. The longer they were at sea, the more money it cost. This has already been discussed here. He always maintained that the iceberg 19343. The crew aboard Titanic from Belfast to Southampton were (except for the deck officers) local operators (or "runners") who mostly worked on voyages that were made locally, and did this with a number of ships, not just Titanic. B. Ismay know this? Hardly "numerous" or warranting any suspicion, especially considering even higher than IMMs.". Titanic was sailing a popular North Atlantic route, known to be busy at that time of year. Irish. Secondly, it is true that the outline of each letter was incised into the hull, and then painted in with a golden/yellow shade. The boats were left until December 1912 in New York. In fact the coal strike ended four days before Titanic sailed (April 6) so there would be an increase in opportunities for shorter crossings. Steve Hall does not believe the 'switch' theory at all: "The problem with that doco is it's 13 years old Of course it's Titanic." ", Olympic (left) and Titanic during construction at Harland & Wolff, Belfast. Seacocks opened to hasten the sinking 1 were never lit at all. To confirm this Parks Stephenson visited B-52 with James Cameron on a later mission in 2001 and described the room as still retaining "several of its fittings. rumours of an insurance scam, they would serve a minimum of 20 years in jail 9 and was ordered by 1st Officer Murdoch down to A Deck where he helped with the loading of lifeboat No. Claim: While the wheelhouse of the Olympic was allegedly constructed in a bow fronted fashion, a photograph taken from the top of the huge steel gantry appears to show a straight fronted wheelhouse, exactly as it appeared on earlier drawings of the ship. In 1912 Paddy [claimed he] was a 22-year- Claim: Numerous ships were stationed nearby, despite a coal strike, to take off the passengers, which is why the shortage of lifeboats would not matter. So the accuracy of his statement is found wanting and thus calls into question his mention of carpet in the "dining saloon". We also have a substantial amount of supporting evidence to prove that Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved: 1. RMS Olympic after the collision with HMS Hawke. This would seem very odd considering the fact that people were paying for Titanic's maiden voyage and not the Olympics maiden voyage. between eighty and ninety feet.". James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. Claim: The Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of around 45,000, while the Titanic weighed in [sic] at about 46,000. 25. in a high position in the company, the other man was in a very high position It must first be stated that it is correct that there is a difference between Olympic in Titanic in this regard. Proportionally less than Titanic!" the Hawke collision that would supposedly justify a 'switch' scenario. Hence it is Olympic, not Titanic. And so we have established that the Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved. After a million men had walked out for 37 days the government intervened and ended the strike by passing a minimum wage law. About This Item. Why would it be there? Edith Rosenbaum, George Rhiems, Albert Dick and Vera Dick and William Sloper. Importantly, Mark Chirnside reports the following: "The companys surplus on the profit If he had indeed mentioned it at a presentation why did it not become substantial news at the time? He had called Author Steve Hall admits it could be the, 48. Also, as discussed in point number 16 above, there was less interest in Titanic's maiden voyage, as her older sister had proceeded her. So higher or sealed bulkheads would not necessarily have prevented Titanic from sinking, In fact both Olympic and Titanic were launched with 14 portholes on the port side forecastle on C-Deck and 15 portholes on the starboard side of the same area. The wind blows through his silver hair. More tellingly, this does not look like repair work - considering that this was supposed to have been completely repaired and seaworthy. The hearings following the Olympic/Hawke collision included a damage assessment of the Olympic which was agreed upon by both White Star and the Royal Navy, and stated that the Hawkes bow had penetrated eight feet into Olympics hull. James Cameron's epic movie 'Titanic' was released 25 years ago Starring Leonardo de Caprio and Kate Winslet, Titanic became the first movie to gross a billion dollars. While the Californian was primarily designed to transport cotton, there is absolutely no evidence that it had a He was awarded the Queens Gold Medal for Poetry in 2007 and won the PEN Pinter Prize in 2015. As if somehow to counteract this fact, it has then been alleged that 'Titanic's insurance was increased by J. P. Morgan from $5 million to $12.5 million 5 days before her fateful journey'. There is no proof that a man named James Fenton, also known as Paddy Fenton or "Paddy the Pig" was ever aboard Titanic; his name is not on any of the crew lists or among any of the survivor lists. Even if he did blatantly confuse the names of the ships, it would be clear evidence there was not a 'switch', as otherwise he would have been absolutely sure to get the correct name of the ship to ensure the fraud was watertight. And when we factor in that the passenger capacity was actually even less (2550, which would mean space for 1503) then we clearly see the claim is not accurate at all. There are ample photographs online and in books of this area of Titanic for you to check for yourself. If a number of people had cancelled because of some sort of fear of a switch or insurance scam going on, it seems very likely that they would have spoken out after the disaster. carburetter (he had filled in his declaration However the way in which it is painted to look part of a conspiracy theory Also it must be noted that Titanic's dining room was Crewman refused to sail on Titanic The Poetry Archive -- James Fenton is one of the numerous poets featured on this fantastic website. The fireplace filmed in 1995 and which partly was shown in the "Titanic" movie at the beginning were actually the fireplace of sitting room B 51 which was occupied by Mrs. Cardeza and her son. This was standard White Star Line practice. 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