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Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. He had terrific stuff. That would make him a star in today's market. Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. May 25, 2001 He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. January 12, 2011 But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. April 20, 2002 But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. October 13, 2008 In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. Shari As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. snook He served up a home run, and my mother screamed "Lolich, you fat jerk, you stink!!!" Baseball burnt him out. Donut Shoppe Patron He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. To this day she still despises Mickey Lolich. October 13, 2008 And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. He started 45 games and completed 29. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. No contest. body would be a pretty slender person. Maybe Rusty was not in his prime when the Tigers got him, but the man could still swing the bat. He believes the '84 Tigers will bring Detroit its first championship in 16 years. Bobster1985 As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. bob saunders December 13, 2007 October 19, 2011 August 7, 2018 Bob Al As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. (thankfully returning in '81). In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. (thankfully returning in '81). LA-Mets or Bruce Kison. It was the ultimate donut for the future donut-shop owner. Bob P As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. September 25, 2013 As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. June 11, 2003 In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. He pitched very good ball for you. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. November 12, 2006 Feat Fan Shickhaus Franks feat fan When I was a kid everyone had a second favorite team and for some reason the Tigers were mine. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. I kinda wish he had stayed with the Tigers and I could have rooted for him from afar. bob saunders December 20, 2019 He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Al Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. Man, he was a big one. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. Max Power Raymond Malcuit In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. ''I just mind my own business. Raymond Malcuit Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. GoMets2006 April 24, 2003 (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. 308 strikeouts. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. That's more realistic but generous, I think! The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. 170 lbs.? Jim Snedeker Mike B That's more realistic but generous, I think! 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Bartolo Colon etc). His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. 170 lbs.? Fattest guy ever to grace a Mets uniform My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. Bob P He goes up one notch for being a character! October 19, 2011 July 15, 2016 I had never heard my mother get so angry at a Mets player. '', Lolich and his wife, Joyce, left the ball park without answering questions about how the current team compares to Detroit's last pennant winner. That's pretty good this day in age. feat fan I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. So why did you try to destroy the guy? Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. Baseball burnt him out. Mike B Joe Figliola He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Jim Snedeker The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. March 22, 2005 Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Raymond Malcuit Jr. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? God bless him wherever he is and good luck! He was born on September 12, 1940 and his birthplace is Portland, OR. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Laura15yearoldmodel Ramblin' Pete July 15, 2016 mets He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Fact is Lolich was always overweight. 170 lbs.? (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Feat Fan September 29, 2007 In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. If he had finished his career in Detroit, he probably would have been elected to the Hall Of Fame, with perhaps two more seasons of 15 wins. That's more realistic but generous, I think! It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. November 3, 2006 He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. Cut him some slack. June 30, 2019 Ramblin' Pete Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! But, it's like cooking at home. etc. February 28, 2003 Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. March 22, 2005 Lake Orion wasconsidered avacation cityin thepast. In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. Doug S. December 20, 2019 The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. September 29, 2007 support. Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. And Rusty Staub? McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. NYB Buff 6'1", 170???? I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Max Power 170 lbs.? Doug S. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. April 27, 2013 December 24, 2001 Lolich was giving one of his typical awful performances in a Mets uniform. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. He had terrific stuff. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. support. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! July 15, 2016 April 6, 2012 June 2, 2006 So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. Shari The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. But dad could never pronounce his name right; he always called him "Yo-lich" no matter how many times we corrected him. I remember that the Daily News at the time would have a one-page section on Sunday that showed some of the athletes with their families away from the ballpark. You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? Mike B May 4, 2001 April 27, 2013 Staub a great fielder with a great arm? The Mets traded the best player they ever had for a bunch of stiffs. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. LA-Mets Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. eddiek Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Did you boo him or make fun out of him? According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. October 19, 2011 October 19, 2011 Man, he was a big one. May 7, 2013 It just happens to be my own and I just happen to make doughnuts.''. I still remember the Mets broadcast team trying to build him up in the eyes of the fans because he had been a Cy Young award winner. September 29, 2007 October 4, 2005 Mike B I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. Mickey Stephen Lolich, American former professional baseball player, manufacturer's representative. So why did you try to destroy the guy? I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. He later resurfaced with the Padres. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! The point is he made a bad team worse. I still have it somewhere. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. Randy Tate support. April 27, 2013 Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. It was not made for the purpose of improving the team. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. Ramblin' Pete Mickey Lolich was born on September 12, 1940, in Portland, OR. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Rusty played another decade. or Bruce Kison. He later came back to play for the Padres. 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