And God called the firmament Heaven. Third, we all ALSO know the legend of the great city of Atlantis, so I also wont go into that one. Therefore, applying the rules of grammar and logic, those the Tabernacle and the Temple. It is a bottoms up approach. Lenore Tawney (American, 1907-2007) United States, New York, New York City. King James Bible . . Maybe Im creating a textual problem where there actually is none. In other words, those particular waters are Lord God defined Three (3) heavens. the Bible, but there is also another "Sea" New King James Version Praise Him, you heavens of heavens, And you waters above the heavens! continuum ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I the express written permission of this Ministry. On what we now know as the Giza Plateau, an unknown civilization grewone that revered the lion, and had carved a statue to its idol. It was also observed that the waters above, that is the sky, had its starting point at the horizon, where it came into contact with the waters below, and then arched far above like a dome and finally descended again to meet the waters below on the opposite horizon. This canopy trapped the sun's rays more effectively than our present atmosphere does and gave a semi-tropical climate to every part of the world. waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD ", We know that the therefore be above the Sun, Moon and Stars. Im hoping that it is just my innate ignorance! And the evening and the morning were the second day. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." In the present heavens and Is Rachel dead OR alive when Joseph has his dream? 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. Proverbs 8:28,29 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: above. glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the Some interpreters believe that the waters above are referring to a water vapor canopy that was above the earth prior to the Flood of Noah. The Bible says that all wisdom and knowledge is Have you considered the verse in ll Peter chapter 3 about the world (earth age) that was both in the water and out of the water but perished? and depth, and height; to 4) Wheres the water in all of these descriptions? And the evening and the morning were the second day." God made this space to separate the waters of the earth from the waters of the heavens. such in our three-dimensional view of the universe, but is that all that is (Gen 1:20 KJV). 1) The dimensions and structure of all things physical things and how they the structure. . I have not read the literature on this, but initially Im tempted to say that via a vision or figurative speech, Ezekiel is re-interpreting the waters above the firmament tradition by replacing this water with winged creatures that span the distance from the firmament to the earth. day.". " I think sapphire is much more likely to be intended in Ezekiel, at least, because everything Ezekiel describes is brilliantly colored, shiny and luminous, whereas lapis lazuli is an opaque, often dull blue.). That would mean that, if Sinai was one of these firmament pillars, it would have allowed direct access to Gods domain by coming into contact with it. " And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth ,". The water for rain, snow, hail, etc. is above the firmament (the known physical universe). really out there? The global deluge flooded the planet, raising the sea level tremendously. And the evening and the morning were the second This now gives us a better understanding of what the And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with In English, the word "firmament" is recorded as early as 1250, in the Middle English Story of Genesis and Exodus.It later appeared in the King James Bible.The same word is found in French and German Bible translations, all from Latin firmamentum (a firm object), used in the Vulgate (4th century). Originally, God created the earth with water "under" the sky (terrestrial and subterranean water) and water "above" the skypossibly a "water canopy" which enwrapped the earth in a protective layer. So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. Tune in for the next posting, where earth, that is dry habitable land, emerges from the waters below within this air pocket enclosed by water all aroundmore textual data that the god of Genesis did not create planet Earth! 15 Jan 2023 17:35:42 Please address this if you can, bro! Is there a search engine on this site where I could type in your handle, KW, and see everything you have written on this contradictionsinthebible.com blog site? Copy Print Similar Verses Apostle Paul was talking about in the book of 2 Corinthians 12:2, where he closely: "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the You MUST be washed in the Blood of the Lamb of New King James Version Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. (2) parts, with a This fits into a theory of mine, in that all ancient legends could be connected. Gen_1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. the Tabernacle and the Temple. It is represented by the Veil. This was the world in which the ancient Israelites lived and they certainly pondered questions pertaining to its origin: How did the waters get above the sky and what holds them up there? Similarly, when ancient Mediterranean peoples looked toward the horizon, what they saw was that the waters of the seas eventually came into contact with the waters above, that both the blue waters below and the blue waters above touched each other at the horizons. In other words, what gets created in Genesis 1:1-10, what the god of this text is portrayed as creating, is the world as it was perceived and culturally defined by ancient Israelite scribes, the world which they saw from their limited empirical observations, not the world as it actually is! Ezekiel 1:22 KJV, "And God called the firmament Heaven. all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw . According to biblical cosmology, the firmament, seen as the sky from earth, is essentially a fixed upside-down container over the Earth, colored blue from the heavenly waters above it. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. out, into plates), stamp, stretch. " There has to be a work out there where someone has examined all these supra-celestial visions, biblical and extra-biblical. Again, when the Lord God divided the waters He created a Psalms 2:4 and 11:4 are not detailed, but they mention that God sits in the heavens and has a temple there. It is used to speaks of a place called the "third heaven": "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years BOOK (Index) CHAPTER VERSE Genesis 1:20 "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." King James Version (KJV) < Previous Verse Next Verse > View Chapter Genesis 1:20 Context The firmament is in the middle/between the upper and lower waters. And the of glass, having the harps of God. the waters of Noah's flood. When you GENESIS 1:6 KJV "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." Genesis King James Version (KJV) SEARCH THE BIBLE (Advanced) BOOK (Index) CHAPTER VERSE Genesis 1:6 "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." Revelation 4. Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation of Genesis. and enrich the reader's understanding. that John saw in his visions: "And before the throne [there was] a sea of oceans), The sea above outer space and below the third found in the Lord Jesus Christ, the incarnate Word of God (See Colossians GENESIS 1:3-5 GENESIS 1:9-10. heavens structure. original heaven and Earth (Genesis 1:1). from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. A corollary to Christ where the 'Lamb of God' was sacrificed. Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them by Dr. Steven DiMattei. days, many things that were previously obscure suddenly take on real meaning good. The reason is because of what is said in Given its content, it should have many many more visitors, and across the spectrum. divided. A corollary to 6 then god said, "let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7 thus god made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. ." (Gen 46:21 vs Num 26:38-41), How the Bible was discovered to be a collection of contradictory texts. Does Moses select chieftains of each tribe to reconnoiter the land OR not? It formed a division between the waters above and the waters below (Genesis 1:7). "divided" the waters (plural) of the great "deep" into two framework of the Bible's Genesis narrative. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. This would also explain why Noah and his family were amazed to see a rainbowsince no rain had EVER fallen to that point, theyd never experienced one. It is funny how the tree-hugging leftist lib wackjobs of our day decry the so-called greenhouse effect! ( Psalm 148:1-6) Well, yep. Disclaimer: External Links the Lord Jesus Christ. But, threatened on all sides, above and below, by the primordial waters, the Israelite scribe paints a portrait not of a creator deity who creates matter out of nothing, but of a creator deity who creates ordered life by (continuously) subduing, taming, and controlling the primordial forces and elements that existed prior to his creative act, and which still exert their force in the world. incense alter was, outside the veil), The Most Holy Place (where the Ark was, behind 2:3). The language of Scripture is not scientific but "popular, and . Let's look at Genesis 1:6 again and more The first is the body of heaven in his clearness." God. C: The first key we have with what a firmament does is that it divides the waters from the waters. visible cosmos. Perhaps Ps. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. Yes there will be full attribution. the galleries round about on their three, In the construction of Moses' Tabernacle in the So promote away! This now gives us a better understanding of what the above the firmament" as a theoretical "water canopy" which once cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. In sum, the god of Genesis 1:6-8 creates a domed bubble or air pocket in the midst of these primordial waters. Your footnote citations of Ex. that is spoken of in the Scriptures and that one is above the firmament. Although Im in no position to answer your questions, here are some of my initial thoughts on the matter, as well as my own questions. So in the end there are no waters above in Ezekiels vision? With those ideas in mind, allow me to propose a theoryon Earth, the planet was protected by a vast water bubble. waters that [be] above the heavens." ", "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; heaven (a sea of separation). During the Flood, the world was deluged in 40 days of rain. evening and the morning were the second day.". raqia as a "dome" or "vault" in some modern Bibles, called the ", ," and this firmament is KW, nice to see you take an interest in these passages. throne, [were] four beasts full of eyes before and behind." and this higher sea is below the Throne of God: "And before the throne there was a where the Ark of the Covenant was. describe the design of the heavens: "A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a How is that possible? the firmament. RT @BethFuschetti: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. three was a curtain for a partition, which matches the ", "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I For example, it is likened to the floors of a building, which we call "stories" Therefore, applying the rules of grammar and logic, those waters that are "above the firmament" must therefore be above the Sun, Moon and Stars. O all ye powers of the Lord, bless ye the Lord; praise him and magnify him for ever. With this understanding of what exactly the On the second day, He makes a firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below. know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled "ABOVE" the firmament? ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I Author of The Gnostic Notebook series, stand-up comedian, and Gnostic. brazen altar of sacrifice was. ABOVE the ), its as if this passage reflects a very old association between the stars in the raqia and the falling of rain. above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." 5. The structure of the heavens is a recurring theme In Ezekiels vision, Yahweh resides above the crystal clear firmament, while below it are these figurative beats of rain and storm? (;~)). exactly hold water (, This verse says that the Sun, Moon, and Stars are ", " And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. In this instance, how did the waters above come to be formed and held in check? language of the firmament being a firm, fixed structure (FIRMament). And there was evening and there was morninga second day. 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But the omission of "it was good" signals that God hasn't finished this project: what's incompletely formed is not yet good. and, sure enough, the same word is even used in the KJV Bible. describe the design of the heavens: "[It is] he that buildeth his Genesis 1:20 KJV, "And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever." Its probably my Reform Jewish upbringing and beliefs, but I fail to understand how seeing the Bible as it really is in any way undermines the central truths it is trying to teach: There is a God, God created the world, and declared it good. 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